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May 28, 2009

The People vs. Tony Geary

I liked life so much better when I operated under the assumption that everything bad about General Hospital was solely the fault of Bob Guza, and that the lack of rioting by the cast was just an example of their professionalism. When a certain daytime icon began being destroyed in a systematic faction and became history-denouncing and unlikable, my first reaction was, "For the love of Xenu, Guza, will you stop at nothing in your quest to be terrible?"

Except it turns out that while Bob Guza ruins most things, he doesn't ruin everything and cannot be fully blamed for the curious case of Luke Spencer, since Luke's portrayer is the story's biggest cheerleader and has taken to the streets (or, more accurately, the soap mags, but the image of Tony Geary roaming the streets proselytizing about Luke's story arc is the only amusing part of this debacle) to chastise viewers who are unhappy with the way Luke has been written.

If you are perplexed by a Luke who cheats on Laura and chooses a mumbly grifter over his own children, prepare to get schooled after the jump!

"Luke has faced his mortality, and that changes people...[we've] reinvented him as a fuller, more mature man facing the end of his life...whenever that may be"

I literally cannot comprehend this version of Luke being described as mature. It does not compute. Unless he is using "mature" as "older". That I can see, especially since the average Port Charles lifespan is shockingly low.

"Through Ethan, who is so like him and who shares his demons and dreams, there seemed to be a perfect opportunity to really take a hard look at what he's accomplished, what he's failed at and what's left for him"

Dude, you don't need Ethan for that! Here, I'll sum it up for you:

What he's accomplished: ruining one of the most beloved legacies in daytime
What he's failed at: entertaining the ever-dwindling number of GH viewers
What's left for him: poorly written shenanigans

There you go! You can send Ethan back to wherever he came from now.

"It's interesting that fans have never been angry with Lucky for the way he's talked to Luke," Geary says in his character's defense.

That IS interesting! It's COMPLETELY interesting that my mind went to "sympathy" and "affection" before anger when discussing a character who has done little more than dare to be mad at the father who blatantly disrespects him, judges him, dismissively refers to him as having a dead-end life in which he raises other men's children and has a hearty chuckle at that time Lucky was kidnapped and brainwashed.

I completely love this justification, and by "love", I mean "can't compute because my brain exploded". "All of these people are mad at Luke for being a douche, but what about Lucky?!?! He's the mean one! He's mean and disrespectful and...he's mean! To Luke! Make him stop!"

"Whether or not Ethan turns out to be his son, the fact remains that Luke had an affair on Laura," Geary acknowledges. "Of course, fans aren't happy with that."

I could almost feel him rolling his eyes dismissively in that last sentence, perhaps because I am paranoid and have an overactive imagination.

"But you know what? It doesn't make him love Laura any less. This is the way life is. I've always known that Luke has had women on the side."

This is me speechless. Literally, all I could muster when I first read that was a shocked "...". I know he has mentioned Luke visiting hookers before and I either repressed it or wrote it off as some sort of hallucination. "This is the way life is"? If life means having one of the best couples in all of daytime set on fire for a tawdry and stupid, and boy is it stupid, story, I want no part of it. In fact, to quote one of the worst movies of the late 90s, I DOAN'T WAHNT YOUR LAHF, MR. GEARY.

"He grew up in a whorehouse."

Is this the new "Deke locked Sonny in a closet when he was younger, so please excuse the ensuing decades of terrible behavior"?

"I've said for years that he has successfully separated sex from love all his life."

"I've said it so many times! Why do I still have to explain this to you? God, you guys are lame."

"That doesn't mean he wasn't totally devoted to Laura."

Um...that is actually exactly what it means.

"I have always embraced challenging the fans"

Thank you for taking time out of your day to do this community outreach, Mr. Geary, and doing your best to educate the poor, dumb fans who don't get the genius of your new, dark version of Luke Spencer!

"But they have a tendency to want to freeze you in time. They want to keep that character what he was when they were happy."

This is highly reminiscent of Julie Hanan Carruthers accusing people who were unhappy with All My Children of rewriting the show in their heads and imagining stories that never actually took place. Like, what GH is doing with Luke is just too good and we, the fans, are just being selfish by not recognizing that. We're living in the past and it is totally cramping Tony Geary's style!  

"But life changes. People change. I think if they stick with it, they're going to be okay with it. If they're not, they're not and that's okay, too. I'm thrilled that they're going to be challenged."

"If the viewers we have right now are idiots who don't recognize sheer brilliance when they see it, that's okay. I pity them for living such sheltered, sad existences, but it's okay."

On Luke's ongoing battle with his son Lucky: "Lucky carries Luke's rage and his sense of justice," Geary says. "It's not the same sense of justice that Lucky has, because they come from different worlds. But they both have an inability to get on with things when they face something unjust"

That answer was a convoluted, unintelligible mess of vagueness. I especially like how quick he is to point out that Lucky doesn't have the SAME sense of justice as Luke, as if a shared sense of justice would mean that Luke caught Lucky cooties.

On What Luke has learned from Ethan: "To love life again", states Geary. "Luke has been looking at life as if it were over, the best years gone. He's not kicking it with the relish that he used to. Ethan is reacquainting him with the reasons he loves life. They're so amazingly connected."

First of all, the phrase "kicking it" brought to mind a host of terrible middle school memories wherein teachers would try their hardest to use slang they thought was in, and was invariably hopelessly outdated and cringe worthy. Stop trying to make fetch happen, Tony!

Secondly, if only there was something in Luke's life that he could love! It's such a tragic shame, isn't it, that he is unmarried, with no children and no siblings in Port Charles for him to love. No wonder he glommed on so quickly to this mysterious con-man. Childless, single orphans are very easy marks and obviously Luke was no exception!

Thirdly, his discussion of Ethan in this interview, and others, is always spoken in the most breathless and reverent tones. It makes me uncomfortable and reminds me of nothing so much as Bob Guza's relentless worship of Jason Morgan.

On Luke's attraction to Holly: "He'll always have feelings for her", nods Geary. "She's a con woman. She seduces men to get their money. He loves that about her. It's a turn-on".

RIP, The Real Holly Sutton. I'll always like you more than your Guzafied, poorly-written 21st century incarnation. At least we'll always have YouTube to remember how you used to be!

On what makes Luke and Tracy's marriage work: "She's his constant and is the best challenge Luke ever had," Geary remarks. "And I do believe that they have great, rough sex. I think they slap each other around and love it. Why do you think he calls her Spanky?"

I imagined a variety of horrifying explanations for the Spanky nickname and yet none of them managed to be quite as disturbing as the one offered here.

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I think it's clear that my hatred of Luke is not going to end and is, perhaps, amplified by the fact that Tony Geary is so damn giddy about the direction Luke has taken, even if that direction is terrible.

Special thanks to Beth R., Simone and Charles for alerting me to this crime against humanity!

Comments

LOL - Thanks, Mallory. You will NEVER EVER EVER NOT IN A MILLION YEARS EVER hear me praise Guzass! BLEH! I'm visiting the set in a few weeks - anything you want me to tell him for you? LMAO!

"I vividly remember the 'very special episode' of 'One Day With...' that they did for Geary and the barely-suppressed disdain he seemed to have for the Luke and Laura saga ('well, the rape is what put us on the map'), his own history on the show and his status in the soap opera world. He came across as the living definition of 'self-hating'."

If Tony Geary hates Luke and the Luke & Laura phenomena, why doesn't he quit? He must have no self-respect. He certainly has no respect for the fans or for the soap genre. No one forced him to go back to GH. He could have refused lived a more modest life, teach and act on the stage.

FUCK YOU TONY GEARY!!!!!! I know what this is all about and I still don't like it. Mind you after much review I find that I did not really care for Luke and Laura but the history of what I saw on my screen at the time worked for me as a fan of romance and good story. This current shitting on their history blows but also falls in line of what TFGH has been since it has become the Sonny and Jason Hour with special guest star Carly for shits and giggles. Geary hates Luke and now he has just been given the right to now display it for all to see. I really hope Genie Francis has in some way let this asshole of a man know how she so despises this and him in the process of the "reinventing of Luke". Dickwad.

Is it wrong of me that I now want Laura to be with Scotty as well and that they can both live happily in Paris together because of this nonsense? L&L were a little before my time but still...

Also, bonus points if Luke finds out that the both of them did this and gets the kiss off from Laura via postcard. It's cold, informal and it doesn't involve bringing Genie Francis back (or waste her time doing stupid nonsense like this show)...it's what Guza lives for.

As a DIE-hard Luke and Laura fan, I am thoroughly pissed off by his comments. How dare he state that it's okay to cheat on a woman just because you love her? I don't give a rats ass what environment you're brought up in!

I have to agree I'm not thrilled with how they've written Lucky, post JJ, but other than that, I'm not with TG at all. Lucky should've been more anti-authority, more of a rebel, more...honestly, fun, but Luke was always a bit of a rebel...yet, a feminist to me. He didn't want Laura barefoot and in the kitchen, he wanted her on adventures and by his side.

Granted he was a total jerk from time to time and did stupid things he shouldn't, and she'd yell at him and they'd resolve it, cause he was an ass, but still, they were equals. So I don't get why TG is acting like this.

He respected the women in his life. He loved Ruby and Bobbie like no tomorrow and thought his father was the bastard from hell, and therefore put Laura on a pedastal. What is this, "It's okay to cheat on women," crap? I don't think that's Luke at all.

He *wanted* to marry Laura. If he was going to cheat on her all through their relationship, he wouldn't have f-ing married her.

So TG is full of BS! And as a long time L&L fan, I'm pissed as hell about it, and please excuse my language.

I gotta say I never liked Luke & Laura, the story was so sweet it made my teeth hurt. Luke & Robert and their adventures - I couldn't get enough of. So, seeing Luke 'kick over the traces' as he gets older, with nothing left to do but follow Tracy around, makes sense to me.

Enter Ethan Lovett - GH gives Tony Geary Nathan Parsons! I think the two of them bonded on a spiritual level. Nathan Parsons says "There was an instant recognition". Tony Geary wants to play Luke as he's always seen him - the guy having adventures with Robert Scorpio, not the old drunk running the casino and fighting with his kids.

Over the years Tony Geary has made a lot of money for GH and they have returned the favor. I do think he has struck yet another deal with TPTB at ABCD. In part it is him supporting the party line in exchange for keeping the Ethan/Luke s/l going. Luke needs a few more adventures before he 'packs it in'.

Thank you, Rene, for giving me the courage to write this.

This seems to be the summer of shit on your kids on GH. Sonny with the chick that went after his kid, Jason with the slut that twice went after his kid, and now Luke trashing Lucky and picking an unwashed con artist over his own son. Frons/Guza must have been raised by abusive moronic fathers, if for a minute they think women, MOTHERS would eat this crap up with a spoon. I haven't watched in months, and this is just the final nail in the coffin. For a show that is bleeding viewers, and has one of the lowest male viewerships of all soaps, Frons might want to wake the hell up and realize who his remaining audience REALLY is.

I think the writers and Mr. Geary himself are very shocked at the fans loyalty for the character of Lucky.

We watched Lucky grow up onscreen and we see when the writers try to make him the "bad one" to make the heros (jason, Luke) look good. Making Lucky a cop so old man Luke could still look like a rebel. Just the fact that Tony G has to even question why the audience doesn't get mad at Lucky yelling at his 104 year old father for being stupid shows Tony really doesn't care anymore. He doesn't care about Luke/Laura history, nothing. He just wants to play a rebel but it doesn't look right when it looks like the character has had a stroke.

I had no idea when I was defending TG on other boards and making the GH writers the heavy that I was dead wrong. I couldn't agree with everyone here more. I don't understand, apart from the possibility of a mental disorder or fear of TPTB at GH that someone else mentioned, how TG can actually endorse this storyline and with these comments. He indeed contradicts his own prior statements, actual episodic footage, as well as thoroughly spitting in the face of not only Genie's performances, but even more unbelievably, his own.

I do feel badly for Nathan Parsons in all this, because he's caught in a crossfire he doesn't deserve to be in. He's a decent actor with his first big break, and none of this is his fault.

Jane Elliot deserves better then this train wreck that GH has become. She is why I watch, and I have to wonder how Guza managed to pigeon hold her so tightly ($$$???) to accept things from Luke Spencer that Tracy Q would have NEVER accepted in her life.
Luke treats her as if the honor is hers to be with his high forhead, scrupuless, Ethan frothing, child bashing, self centered Alcoholic ass. I dare say between the ticker and the booze, I doubt Luke could get it up at all, let alone Spank with his limp wrist.
PLEASE bolster Jane's value as a formidable actress, give Tracy her spine back, and for CHRIST SAKE STOP recycling her wardrobe, Jackets from 4 years ago still popping up regularly, as if a woman with her means, would wear anything twice, let alone 4 seasons a year! She has a dynamite figure, and frankly is far to sexy for a louse like Luke. SUMMER CLOTHES!!!!
Tracy is circling the drain because of the meglomanic that is Tony Geary.
Guza needs to just get back on his bus to Assville and take Tony with him.
For the LOVE of Jane already!

Honestly this has to be some kind of sick joke?.... or
Tony Geary is severely socially challenged (as in asperger's syndrome).. or
He hates Guza so much he is doing this with intention??.... or
He is angry at the world?, Genie Francis? The audience? WTH??? What would possess him to say such things?? Just trying to get a rise out of us repressed Americans??
TIA's in his frontal lobe??? (transient ischemic attack... like mini strokes... frontal lobe responsible for inhibition, organization, mood...) Is he so resentful of his success constantly due to being paired and hyphenated?? (Geez GEnie Francis seems like a class act.) Gosh how sad for him. He is either angry at the world, or so self centered he can't see it???.... and for his sake I hope it is the later... because then I guess he just wouldn't care about this horrible back lash.... and we should care now, why??? What a horrible way to end a glorious career!

I feel sad that Mr. Geary has obviously not had a love that endures. The whole "things change, people change" line is so trite and tired and wrong.. yes Mr. Geary things change and people change, but Love CAN endure... and even if it doesn't often enough in real life, it is certainly because of fantasy that we turn into daytime TV... knowing about Luke and Tracy slapping each other around during sex, or Luke getting it on with other woman "on the side" while Laura lay in bed at night waiting for him is CERTAINLY NOT the reason.Enough woman deal with men treating them like punching bags in real life... why on God's green earth would we turn into a stupid show to watch it??? The degregation of female characters on
GH these days is beyond appaling. Perahaps it is most difficult to swallow from you, Mr. Geary because Luke always seemed to treat Laura with such respect, with such high regard, he admired her heart, soul, mind... God did we know he had faults, but his ability to love so deeply, and be so respectful to Laura superceeded those faults and made it easy to look away. Now he's just a jerk like every other male character on this show (who happens to be front and center).
I am so sorry that Mr. Geary's personal cynicism has affected Luke Spencer. He's a character and he should be able to play him, and leave his personal opinions out of it... think with 6 emmy's that should not be too difficult?!?!

My L&L ended in 2006 with Laura in her happy place and Luke saying he would be there with her until the day he died.. and that's the way it's staying for me. Shutting all this other crap WAY out!

Seriously WTF!!!

Doesn't he have a husband or long term BF somewhere? When, hubby better take a look at those recent comments that Cillann copied and all that eye-fucking going on and get to the set with a gun. Not that all of TG's crap isn't gross enough, we have a what, 60something guy with a woodie for a boy young enough to be his grandson. GROW UP!

I've always agreed that Luke had a horrible childhood which affected him deeply and that it should be explored, as is, acknowledging that the character is fucked up, not glorify him and his destructive behavior!

ITA with whomever says this storyline also ruins the great love of Holly and Robert, and Holly's character is completely destroyed.

Finally, uh, DEAD TO ME!!!!!

I re-read Tony G's article several times because I really couldn't believe what I read the first time. I hate Luke after 30 yrs of loving him. I finally accepted that they had separated Luke and Laura but this new revelation of Tony G's that Laura accepted his affair and he was separating sex from love--Tony G is an egotistical SOB. He has started to believe he is too good for the fans that brought him fame. I actually think he delights in spitting in viewers faces. He is basically OVER it. He hates his fans and you can tell he is doing all he can to tell the fans to "shove it" if they don't like it. He is masking his hate for the fans by saying they are being challenged. I am NOT challenged. I hate Tony G -this whole storyline and re-write was partly his idea. He wants to destoy the LnL legacy. I guess this is his final farewell anyway and he doesn't give a damn anymore--that is obvious.
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Someone needs to rememind him without the Luke and Laura story he would have been gone in 13 weeks without Genie no one would have cared about Luke and we the fans have keep him there for 30 damn years he's and ass and watching him have a hard on for this new guy makes me sick save that for off the air watching him drool on tv makes me sick. Wow I am sure Genie is feeling the love he has said for more tham 30 years he's had for here and the respect he had for her and the Luke and Laura story run Genie and don't look back Mr. Geary is an ass but then again maybe you have know that all alone.

horrible horrible horrible ... i hate what they are doing to our show

One of the biggest problems with Tony Geary denouncing his role as Luke Spencer in this way is that it discredits the stories of so many of the other characters on the show. I am especially disturbed by the treatment of Lucky's character by TG and the writers. Whenever I think of Lucky, I am always reminded of how wonderfully he was played by Jonathan Jackson, and how the character has really changed quite a bit over the years. JJ as lucky was amazing and that's how I always like to think of Lucky, and Greg Vaughn is not bad, but no JJ. But the Lucky character and storyline is still redeemable, whereas Luke's character just does not seem to be worth it. How in the world can he throw away his "cowboy" and treat him so badly!? It makes absolutely no sense and it is insulting to viewers that he would treat his and Laura's son so badly and go as far as to want a new son! It makes me sick inside! Is anyone else also disturbed at the prospect of Ethan and Lulu paling around and Lucky being left in the dust...again?! Someone said above that Geary and the writers are surprised at how loyal people are to Lucky. Well Lucky is Laura's son as well and when they are on screen together it is awesome. Get rid of Geary and give us some good Lucky and Laura and Nikolas stories. I am so over Tony Geary and his huge ego!

I was horrified by most of this. Then I got to the part about Luke and Tracy having rough sex and slapping each other around and... what's worse than horrified? Because that's what I am right now.

I too am no longer a Luke/Tony fan. Me thinks he's a bit too full of himself. I am thisclose to totally giving up this show.

....."Luke has faced his mortality, and that changes people...[we've] reinvented him as a fuller, more mature man facing the end of his life...whenever that may be".....

The end of his life can't come soon enough frankly.

I'm sure his interview will only entice all those people still watching the show to turn off their sets. I know it has for me.

I thnk it's safe to say that Geary is exactly why Genie will never return (as long as that ass is still around) to GH.


He's totally threatened by her popularity.

If Genie's Laura could return and stay written as the character we know, I'd take her in a heartbeat over Tony's self indulgent, dilusional statements and rewrites and furlough both Tony and Luke to Amsterdam forever.

First, I want to say I have NEVER been an L&L fan! Although I did not watch GH during the L&L days (viewer since 1990) I have heard enough about them and I am aware they became a couple in part, because he raped her. So for me, their great love story never interested me. Plus, I usually find the character of Luke annoying and more recently appalling. His treatment of Lucky and Tracy IS unacceptable.

Secondly, I agree with some of the comments posted by Sarah:
"Seriously, I also think that maybe a lifetime of living in the closet has driven him insane. And that is no joke. The way he feels about women, soap fans, L&L, his onscreen family, NuHolly etc.... all screams "I have screwed up feelings about women". And his view of his onscreen sex life vs. his on screen love life says the same disturbing things. He has serious issues. And the way he explains the intentions and actions of Luke off-screen are a sad mess. Some of this confusion for him the show and the fans are due to the wild inconsistencies on GH. And TG is only on set half the year at most, so for him it must be even more confusing. SO he has a whole other show going on in his head that we and even the writers don't know about."

Guza consistently poops on GH's history and spits in the face of long-time fans/viewers. So with that being said, I am not surprised TG is either suffering from egomania and is delusional or he is comfortable and in agreement with Guza re-writing history and Guza's insatiable need to destroy couples. Also, I find the whole interview laced with TG's lust and admiration for Ethan (Nathan Parsons) which is probably, partially responsible for his clouded perception.

Personally, I would love for TG to retire with that Emmy nod (roll eyes) he received this year. Guza has successfully ruined the history of L&L so what more is there for Luke to do? His constant companion of late is a bottle or glass of alcohol and sitting in an empty bar with one employee is getting old.

I say good-bye TG and good riddance. You will not be missed. IMO.

TG is clearly out of his mind and therefore I am ignoring him for now. (I will however ask for a bleach martini to get rid of that Tracy/Luke mental image TG set)

My biggest problem comes back to this: Why are the clearly insane actors even allowed to be anywhere near the writer's room? What producer/network executive approves of this? There seems to be a MASSIVE breakdown behind the scenes.

So as much as I'd love to rail against TG and call him an idiot (which he IS) I can't let this all rest on his feet. They may be his TERRIBLE, COMPLETELY WRONG ideas and viewpoints but a whole bunch of people had to approve it to get it to air.

In short: STOP LETTING THE ACTORS RUN THE SHOW.

If my choice was this mess of a mass character assasination or the ACTUAL assasination of all characters involved...I would gladly take a memorial clip-filled week for my once beloved veteran faves - Luke, Laura, Holly, Tracy & Robert.

No wonder TG hated Wendy Riche...she didn't give the actors the green light to ruin and define the characters based on their own fantasies.

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